1 00:00:04,279 --> 00:00:08,460 It starts today in Antwerp long-awaited assize trial on the 2 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:12,360 Cinderella murder. Marianne Koens became gruesomely killed. 3 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:16,580 Presumably by her partner Anton Bergman and her stepdaughter Julie 4 00:00:16,580 --> 00:00:17,580 Bergman. 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,160 I accidentally knocked Marianne down the stairs sound. I tried to revive her. 6 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:26,760 If she didn't believe me... You already are punished enough. 7 00:00:27,810 --> 00:00:32,430 Marianne Koens was warm and very beloved woman and not an angry one at all 8 00:00:32,430 --> 00:00:34,170 stepmother as you make out. 9 00:00:34,990 --> 00:00:35,990 Mom. 10 00:00:36,230 --> 00:00:37,230 Me, too. 11 00:00:40,030 --> 00:00:41,450 I don't want you to call me again. 12 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:44,330 I'm going to make sure you do too gets out, daddy. I promise. 13 00:00:45,570 --> 00:00:46,610 I can't do it, Frank. 14 00:00:46,930 --> 00:00:50,010 It's my own daughter. A young one, innocent girl. 15 00:00:50,210 --> 00:00:53,610 The jury could have forgiven that, but you and a father who are, so to speak 16 00:00:53,610 --> 00:00:54,850 own daughter has stirred up. 17 00:00:55,310 --> 00:00:57,070 Forget it. That's okay. I'm not, Willis. 18 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:59,850 Wandering people who then live about you decide. 19 00:01:00,090 --> 00:01:03,130 Then you have to make sure you don't go there ends up. A striking appearance 20 00:01:03,130 --> 00:01:06,970 among the jurors drawn court journalist Nico Willis. We 21 00:01:06,970 --> 00:01:08,810 can you leave. But how much cheek is this? 22 00:01:09,890 --> 00:01:11,110 Why are you hanging in the reuvelpipi? 23 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:15,510 I'm Simon, but you're here. I had still thought that you were a musician 24 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:17,750 becomes. Yes, been indeed. 25 00:01:18,130 --> 00:01:19,130 Hey, master. 26 00:01:19,290 --> 00:01:20,290 What happened? 27 00:01:22,030 --> 00:01:23,030 Say how you do it, you? 28 00:01:23,150 --> 00:01:24,450 The gray Katrin. 29 00:01:24,790 --> 00:01:25,790 Hey, man. 30 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:30,100 Oh, it's been so long since anyone grabbed me again. Well, then 31 00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:31,240 Are you going to solve it quickly, right? 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,320 According to Jan, those photos have been sent with a Twitter account named 33 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,020 Firestarter. Would be Kobe. 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,320 I've never heard of that. 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,660 Why would Kobe do that? You are still in couple? 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Not anymore. 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,660 How is your relationship with Julie now? 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,560 We haven't seen each other for a long time spoken. 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Coming, huh. 40 00:01:50,350 --> 00:01:53,610 I don't think Marianne was by accident was pushed down the stairs. If your 41 00:01:53,610 --> 00:01:57,350 strategy fails, then they risk it both murder. Yes, and take the risk 42 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:57,869 me then? 43 00:01:57,870 --> 00:01:59,490 I'm afraid of my interrogation. 44 00:02:00,070 --> 00:02:01,670 You just stick to your statement. 45 00:02:01,990 --> 00:02:03,730 You also want it from a container flies? 46 00:02:04,790 --> 00:02:07,990 Marianne Koens became monstrous wisely murdered by the people who killed them 47 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:08,990 trusted. 48 00:02:09,289 --> 00:02:12,310 I hope the jury gives them the punishment that they deserve. 49 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:30,630 All that training and then again you homework. 50 00:02:33,410 --> 00:02:35,030 You are so far from your diploma. 51 00:02:36,010 --> 00:02:37,530 But I don't need a diploma, do I? 52 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:39,270 I'm going to do a triathlon, right? 53 00:02:47,510 --> 00:02:48,510 Sat. 54 00:02:49,370 --> 00:02:50,370 Take a look at this. 55 00:02:54,290 --> 00:02:55,290 Boarding school. 56 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:58,170 It's better that you go to secondary school first finishes. 57 00:03:00,270 --> 00:03:01,850 And will you be with us at the weekend? 58 00:03:04,830 --> 00:03:05,970 And what about my sport? 59 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:07,910 You can also train there. 60 00:03:08,130 --> 00:03:09,130 Without my coach. 61 00:03:10,930 --> 00:03:16,510 We think that in the long term you will be more with a diploma than with a triathlon. 62 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:17,790 Us or you? 63 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:19,930 Is that her idea? 64 00:03:20,250 --> 00:03:21,390 That's not my mother. 65 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:34,070 Dennis says if I stay like this performance, I will soon go to the DK 66 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:35,070 can. 67 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:41,050 Hey. 68 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:46,590 How do you estimate? 69 00:03:50,090 --> 00:03:51,170 I'm eighteen. 70 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:53,270 I do. 71 00:03:55,050 --> 00:03:56,410 We are not negotiating. 72 00:04:06,670 --> 00:04:09,730 You all have your fucking ideas. You just want me gone. 73 00:04:16,110 --> 00:04:17,110 Hey. 74 00:04:17,450 --> 00:04:18,450 Hey. 75 00:04:20,170 --> 00:04:21,790 I know where you are doing your best. 76 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:34,790 Jonathan Dirkens, hello. 77 00:04:39,310 --> 00:04:40,310 Okay. 78 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:41,950 And it is there now. 79 00:04:44,110 --> 00:04:45,110 Yes. 80 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:46,829 No, wait. 81 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:48,190 I'm doing that questioning now. 82 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:50,250 Okay. 83 00:04:51,810 --> 00:04:54,070 Her stepdaughter is right indicated. 84 00:06:15,690 --> 00:06:18,790 And has anything changed lately? 85 00:06:19,250 --> 00:06:22,910 Something about that extra nerve pain can explain? 86 00:06:23,450 --> 00:06:25,150 No, I do the same as always. 87 00:06:25,490 --> 00:06:29,970 I go to the cinema, I take my pills, I rest. 88 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,150 So I... You better rest. 89 00:06:32,570 --> 00:06:35,070 Jo, I'm really resting, right? 90 00:06:35,810 --> 00:06:41,310 Enough? Yes, but... Your injury is still there stable? 91 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Have you spoken to Doctor Maurice yet? 92 00:06:46,060 --> 00:06:47,300 – Yes, last month. 93 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Sorry, 94 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,480 I'm not crazy, am I? I feel something anyway I feel? I am in excruciating pain. 95 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:56,540 Yes, but you also feel real pain. 96 00:06:56,860 --> 00:06:58,440 That is not up for discussion. 97 00:07:01,340 --> 00:07:04,100 And that neurostimulator, maybe it is an upset? 98 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,700 No, not for me. You know that, right? 99 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,300 But if that helps you, then we have to try anyway? 100 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,260 I'm a little tired trying. 101 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:18,740 And the back is sick. 102 00:07:19,820 --> 00:07:21,240 Or oxynorm or something. 103 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,800 You know I don't like that prescribe. 104 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:26,700 Yes. 105 00:07:29,820 --> 00:07:30,820 Okay. 106 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:33,840 I will give you a box of oxynorm prescribe. 107 00:07:34,340 --> 00:07:36,840 Be careful, you're not supposed to that you take daily. 108 00:07:37,420 --> 00:07:39,320 After this there are few options left. 109 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,220 I'm not evil, I'm a horus. It is something completely different. 110 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:54,160 We should not be unwashed either. 111 00:07:55,620 --> 00:07:58,240 Okay? No, not okay. Yes? No, not right. 112 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,260 You will see that and it will happen to me too squeak, say. 113 00:08:18,060 --> 00:08:19,060 I see quite a bit of what you do. 114 00:08:19,260 --> 00:08:20,460 I see the airport. 115 00:08:20,820 --> 00:08:21,820 Shoes, sir. 116 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Come. 117 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:26,560 Yes, come. Give it a try. 118 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:29,140 Oh dear. 119 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Do you have a shower? 120 00:08:32,539 --> 00:08:37,299 No, that's from my daughter. He has that's already set up. I don't do anything with that. 121 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,940 No, but you shouldn't impose that on me. 122 00:08:39,260 --> 00:08:41,900 I know that too, that you are at the cafe there not encounter. 123 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,559 Are you not serious? 124 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Woman, I'm going to continue now. 125 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:51,270 She always says praises. 126 00:08:52,570 --> 00:08:53,570 Allee. 127 00:08:57,090 --> 00:08:58,090 Emergency center 112. 128 00:08:58,550 --> 00:09:02,870 You need the ambulance as quickly as possible send to Wilgen 323 in Weiningen. 129 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:05,470 Willows 323, Weiningen? Yes, rap. 130 00:09:05,730 --> 00:09:10,230 My ex fell down the stairs and I think she's dead. 131 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:14,230 She lies in a pool of blood. What's up? happened correctly? Don't know. 132 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,100 I found her like this, I don't know what happened, but you have to hurry 133 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:20,260 possibly send someone. 134 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,180 I think she's dead. 135 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:30,120 On August 8, 2021, at 7:46 am we received this call. 136 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:32,460 We went straight to the scene. 137 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:36,980 There were spikes standing on us at this spot to wait. 138 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:38,980 That man was in a complete panic. 139 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:41,200 Drink blood on his hands and on his shirt. 140 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,740 We enter the house and we see in the corridor shoe marks with blood. 141 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,800 There is a smell of Javel. 142 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,480 Mr. Bergman is sitting in the living room. 143 00:09:51,020 --> 00:09:52,960 It doesn't respond when we do come in. 144 00:09:53,820 --> 00:09:56,900 He too is covered in blood. Standing there bottles of drinks on the table. 145 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,120 When we ask for his name, it comes no response to that either. 146 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:03,200 A little later he asks us if she's dead. 147 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:07,120 He had a strange look in his eyes then. 148 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,500 We go further and we see that the back door is open. 149 00:10:12,140 --> 00:10:15,760 The door to the basement is also open and then we see it at the bottom of the stairs 150 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,760 lying victim. 151 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,700 This is a photo of the body of madam as we have her 152 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:22,700 attracted. 153 00:10:25,660 --> 00:10:30,180 Mr. Dirkens, you were in charge the research. That's right. 154 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,420 As an investigating judge, I am on site done the dismount. 155 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:41,010 And then it became clear pretty quickly that Mr. Bergman is in quite a condition 156 00:10:41,010 --> 00:10:46,010 was in a drunken state. And none at all could give a clear explanation of what was happening 157 00:10:46,010 --> 00:10:47,030 exactly had happened. 158 00:10:47,310 --> 00:10:50,890 And then we have the bedroom traces of violence were found. 159 00:10:51,270 --> 00:10:54,970 And Mr. Bergman also had a scratch on it his poor. 160 00:10:55,550 --> 00:10:57,970 You interviewed Mr. Bergman later. 161 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,020 Yes, and in his first interrogation he stated that after an argument with 162 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:09,160 the victim had left the house with a bottle of rum. And was somewhere 163 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,480 parked nearby on a forest road. 164 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:16,680 And he was actually noticed there by a local resident at 10 p.m. 165 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:22,800 But that same local resident is three there passed again fifteen minutes later. 166 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,060 And then it turned out to be the gentleman's car Bergman disappeared without a trace. 167 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:30,940 And then Mr. Bergman has his statement amended. 168 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:35,880 Yes, he then said he was bothered by it street lighting and that he cares about that 169 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 reason had moved his car. And effectively gives us a second one 170 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,720 designated location. 171 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:45,320 However, that also turned out to be impossible he had been there all evening. And 172 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,580 In the end he gives us another one third location designated. 173 00:11:50,060 --> 00:11:54,860 And we have no evidence of that found that confirm his statement. 174 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,520 Mast asks you about that mobile phone perform? 175 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Certainly. He has a two o'clock in the morning had a telephone contact with him 176 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,360 daughter. And then there's that night data traffic a number of times, 177 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:13,520 from which we can deduce that he is been around all evening 178 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,700 this mast, which is also located nearby the victim's house. 179 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,700 Sorry, Madam Chairman, but it is possible please indicate Mr. Dirkens on his 180 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:26,700 ticket where my client's car was parked that evening? 181 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:28,100 That's there. 182 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:31,500 And which mobile phone mast does that forest road fall under? 183 00:12:34,060 --> 00:12:35,060 This. 184 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:36,580 That's the same mast. 185 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,420 Correct. And that is also the reason why so we cannot accept his explanation 186 00:12:42,420 --> 00:12:45,500 debunk. Or it could just be confirm statement. 187 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,260 Yes, Master De Donker, you have a point. 188 00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:53,220 Mr. Investigating Judge, if sir Bergman has moved on from it 189 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:54,980 house to the forest road, in reverse. 190 00:12:55,630 --> 00:12:58,290 Can that be seen on the mast survey? 191 00:12:58,950 --> 00:13:02,510 No, but it is perfect possible. 192 00:13:03,070 --> 00:13:07,530 Yes, and the ANPR cameras? Is the car from Mr. Bergman on that? 193 00:13:08,230 --> 00:13:14,210 There is one ANPR camera, but it has the Mr. Bergman's car never 194 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:19,090 registered. Mr. Dirkens, yours mast survey your cameras can still do 195 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:23,150 prove that my client that evening been to the crime scene. 196 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,580 And yet everyone here tries to do that to make sense. 197 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,180 Master Dark, it's over there crime scene that we have your client 198 00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:32,180 found. 199 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,440 In the morning. 200 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,520 When Mrs. Koens was already dead. 201 00:13:35,860 --> 00:13:40,740 Yes, good. Please continue, sir research director? Bo, Julie Bergman was 202 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:44,220 not in place that particular morning crime, but with a friend. And 203 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:48,760 Inspector Verbeke from the local here will then have the 204 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,800 bad news reported. How has did they respond to that? 205 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:53,340 Excited. 206 00:13:54,220 --> 00:13:57,360 But she seemed especially interesting the fact that her father had been arrested. 207 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:04,000 That same evening she has herself indicated. According to her, she had Marianne 208 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,780 Koens the night before during an argument accidentally pushed down the stairs. 209 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:10,920 And did that explanation seem plausible to you? 210 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:13,140 She certainly had knowledge of the perpetrator. 211 00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:18,140 And there is actually a sweater from her found in the washing machine with the 212 00:14:18,140 --> 00:14:22,040 zipper blood residue that comes from are of the victim. 213 00:14:22,490 --> 00:14:25,770 So they are still with the victim contact has been made, there exists 214 00:14:25,770 --> 00:14:26,770 actually no doubt about it. 215 00:14:26,970 --> 00:14:30,630 Yes, Mr. Durkens, but it turned out later her statement is incorrect. 216 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:36,230 Indeed. The lab later has one cleaned blood trail found. From 217 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:41,410 the living room to the basement. That one blood residue also appeared to come from 218 00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:42,410 of the victim. 219 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:47,450 And the law doctors also came across one number of issues that were inconsistent with one 220 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:48,450 fall down the stairs. 221 00:14:49,250 --> 00:14:53,410 Professor Sterks, what were your... findings? With Mrs. Marianne Koens 222 00:14:53,410 --> 00:14:57,490 we have several fractures found on the back of the head and a 223 00:14:57,490 --> 00:15:03,830 broken rib and bruises the hips, on both legs, 224 00:15:03,830 --> 00:15:06,690 on the wrists and face. 225 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:11,010 These seem like a trap at first of the stairs. 226 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,880 But we have two glaring wounds found. They are located above the 227 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,680 hat edge zone, which is suggestive of blows to the head. 228 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,820 We also see that the strokes are inflicted with a large weapon 229 00:15:22,820 --> 00:15:28,220 swing force. A holostik or a crowbar or a metal pipe or something. 230 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,220 And are those injuries the cause of the death of Marian Koens? 231 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,340 No, they are not. 232 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,320 The blows indeed have a big one impact, but we have none 233 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,800 skull fracture. still bleeding around the brain identified. So the strokes are 234 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,880 not the cause of death... nor the suspected fall from the stairs. 235 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:54,660 But under the eyelids we have pinpoint bleeding was diagnosed. And if I 236 00:15:54,660 --> 00:15:58,540 point bleeding see... then go to me immediately sound all alarm bells. 237 00:15:58,780 --> 00:16:04,720 We think of acute bleeding strangulation or suffocation... where the 238 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,260 mouth and nose are pressed shut... 239 00:16:09,310 --> 00:16:10,310 A plastic bag. 240 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:15,890 You should know, ladies and gentlemen, that if you want to suffocate someone, you 241 00:16:15,890 --> 00:16:19,270 seams for at least one and a half minutes cut off. 242 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:25,450 Yes. 243 00:16:26,330 --> 00:16:30,050 Mrs Koens, has she suffered a lot? 244 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,930 Given the nature of the injuries? 245 00:16:35,770 --> 00:16:36,770 Yes. 246 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:38,900 Undoubtedly. 247 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:09,819 Hey, are you okay? 248 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Those photos, they're not my mom. 249 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:18,920 She doesn't even look like that. 250 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,660 Do you believe everything that is said? 251 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,860 Master Dark certainly does not say that. 252 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,700 And that medical doctor? 253 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,980 That person just writes down what we see. 254 00:17:36,620 --> 00:17:39,220 Yes, Anton says something completely different. And Julie too. 255 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,360 Then they will lie. 256 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:49,460 Julie, she looks so sad. 257 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,760 Oh my goodness, that you have such pictures of you mother must see. Clearly it is possible 258 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,200 are. We're going to be stuck for another two weeks do? 259 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Yes, of course that's clear. Those are just the first interrogations. 260 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,729 Just wait. 261 00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:05,730 I have to start with the lawyer. 262 00:18:05,770 --> 00:18:06,749 – You don't mean that. 263 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:07,750 What then? 264 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:12,550 I have... I brought coffee. 265 00:18:13,650 --> 00:18:14,950 Coffee anyone? – Yes. 266 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,090 And I don't believe anything about that Nanton either more. 267 00:18:19,950 --> 00:18:23,990 That witness sees Bergman at ten o'clock, but not anymore at a quarter to eleven. 268 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:26,990 Sorry, but that's not possible. – Why not? 269 00:18:27,870 --> 00:18:29,950 Anton Bergman saw for himself that it was there was no longer standing? 270 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:32,210 Isn't it advisable for the police to be there? didn't find anything? 271 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,580 Did you have tracks everywhere you went? 272 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:37,520 You change your statement three times if you tell the truth? 273 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,920 That girl might have been a keeper. One promiser? 274 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:42,620 What does he say? 275 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:45,900 Learning to be is always important. 276 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:51,860 Are you as beautiful in person as you are on your face? photo? 277 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:56,060 White, otherwise send it back. 278 00:18:57,220 --> 00:18:58,220 Hopefully. 279 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:05,750 It's so cozy here. 280 00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:07,490 Yes, Jacob. 281 00:19:08,090 --> 00:19:09,310 That's under the blades here. 282 00:19:16,050 --> 00:19:20,510 It's not a miss either. 283 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:27,370 It's a small machine, but you you can go further with it. 284 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:28,610 Yes, thanks. 285 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:33,110 What I'm struggling with is that trail of blood from the living room to the basement. 286 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,020 Yes, and claimed, then what? 287 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,860 That little girl would never deceive that girl defend it if there is no other explanation 288 00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:39,860 for that blood. 289 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,300 Don't put it in the washing machine then? 290 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,340 With blood on? Yes, but as Julie Bergman says she has that Marianne 291 00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:48,480 Trying to resuscitate is still possible are of that? 292 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:51,060 You know, I just don't believe it. 293 00:19:51,340 --> 00:19:54,200 That's such a fragile girl and then she will who have done something like this. 294 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,220 Don't let anything fool you, okay? 295 00:19:56,420 --> 00:19:57,420 That child is lying. 296 00:19:57,780 --> 00:19:58,780 Mollee. 297 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:00,680 She's just good at hiding it. 298 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:18,090 Those pictures of Jeanne, what do you know about that? 299 00:20:20,030 --> 00:20:22,110 That she's standing there naked. 300 00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:28,290 Do you know who drew that? 301 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:32,130 Why does Jeanne say you did that? have? 302 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:36,190 Jeanne is angry with me. 303 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:38,490 Because I broke up with you. 304 00:20:39,970 --> 00:20:41,730 She had been sleeping with someone else kiss. 305 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:44,130 Jeanne did not take those photos. Who did that? 306 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,340 Hey, we're talking to you talk, huh? 307 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:53,540 Come on, give that ghoul singer here. 308 00:20:57,820 --> 00:20:58,820 What is that? 309 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:07,340 Kobe. 310 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,300 Who is that in that email? 311 00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:14,540 That's from her new love. 312 00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:18,910 And he says I have those pictures sent. 313 00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:22,070 But I'm sure he does has done himself. 314 00:21:30,110 --> 00:21:32,130 And that a guy peed on your sweater has? 315 00:21:32,650 --> 00:21:35,310 Say, he sent your photo around. 316 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:39,450 He meant that. 317 00:21:41,310 --> 00:21:43,310 Koba, why does he do such things? 318 00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:44,870 I'm going to call the school. 319 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,640 You can't just threaten them without it that you did something. 320 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:51,420 Amma, please don't do that. You're going only make things worse. 321 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:57,080 If he threatens you one more time, you get it him to do it with us. 322 00:22:02,420 --> 00:22:05,520 Koba, do you have something to do with those photos? make, yes or no? 323 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,640 No. 324 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:10,420 Not at all. 325 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:24,150 Mr. Investigative Director, I have me Let them tell you this is your first 326 00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:25,150 murder case. 327 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:29,930 Um, yeah, I don't understand how that is might be relevant, but that's true 328 00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:30,930 indeed, yes. 329 00:22:31,290 --> 00:22:33,450 Congratulations. Thank you. No, and I mean that. 330 00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:35,930 No, I mean that from the bottom of my heart heart. 331 00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:41,070 According to the press I'm a bastard, but... Yes, and who believes to go 332 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:42,790 sitting, then thought about today. Right? 333 00:22:45,730 --> 00:22:48,890 Fine, um, but... Renounce, sir Dirkens. 334 00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:55,780 As the research director, you decide which one investigations are carried out and which ones 335 00:22:55,780 --> 00:22:56,860 not. That's correct. 336 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,480 Can you tell me a little more about it DNA research in this case? 337 00:23:02,420 --> 00:23:09,400 In addition to her own profile, there is DNA Retrieved from Anton Bergman, Julie 338 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,660 Bergman and Dennis Pijken who made her found of course. 339 00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:15,980 But also from several others traces. 340 00:23:16,330 --> 00:23:20,570 To a much lesser extent, yes. But being there no matches found either. 341 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:24,790 Wait, I'm trying to understand. I'm just a simple person, sir 342 00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:28,990 Dirkens. But it is still true that you are talking about must have a DNA sample 343 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:33,110 someone, before you can compare it with the DNA found, in this case on 344 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:34,230 the body of Mrs. Koens? 345 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:35,790 That's right, yes. 346 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:40,550 There was a party at the house that day of, a barbecue. 347 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:44,210 Have you requested DNA from the people who... were there? 348 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,140 That they have led us too far. 349 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,640 So no. 350 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,420 How many people were at that barbecue? 351 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,760 There were fourteen people. 352 00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:57,900 Fourteen people. 353 00:23:58,220 --> 00:24:00,660 That's not really a full one either football stadium. 354 00:24:02,020 --> 00:24:03,540 Still, Mr. Dirkens? 355 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:07,300 Has a murder weapon actually been found? 356 00:24:07,620 --> 00:24:10,160 No. Not looking for it? Not found. 357 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,260 Not found. And what time is it, ma'am Koens passed away? 358 00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:17,750 Or maybe I should go to your colleague look, doctor? Professor. 359 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:20,470 Professor. And we can tell you the exact hour do not communicate. 360 00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:23,350 A broad estimate, professor? 361 00:24:24,450 --> 00:24:27,570 Between 9 p.m. and 3 a.m. 362 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:31,170 The moment my client... had to get drunk elsewhere. Or so it claims 363 00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:31,949 him, right? 364 00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:35,110 Mr. Dirkens, I understand that it is difficult is to investigate everything. 365 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:36,910 Almost impossible, right? 366 00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:41,970 Yes, we have choices with our team have to make, as we always do. 367 00:24:42,270 --> 00:24:45,400 Always? But you just said that this is yours was the first thing. 368 00:24:46,020 --> 00:24:51,620 Or as it always happens. Yes, one a bit confusing, but okay. 369 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,940 Mr. Dirkens, so if investigating judge you have choices 370 00:24:56,940 --> 00:25:00,360 made. But so if there are any others traces that possibly lead to another 371 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,280 suspect would lead, then the chance that they have been left behind. 372 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:09,340 Master Dark, there are and were none other suspects. So that's basically it 373 00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:11,800 just completely out of the question. You say. 374 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:17,450 It seems to me that you mainly make choices about... who is or is not suspected 375 00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:20,310 place from which tracks you go investigate. 376 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:22,070 Are we pleading yet, master? 377 00:25:22,350 --> 00:25:25,490 Ah, no, ma'am. No, madam chairman. No, no, not yet. That is 378 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:26,570 with more show, eh. 379 00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:31,570 That's with the big gestures and all. All very funny, master 380 00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:34,950 Matter matters, please. I'll make it short Madam Chairman. 381 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:37,210 Mr. Dirkens, in all seriousness. 382 00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:43,790 That Mrs. Koens in a cheeky way wise man... was murdered, I doubt it 383 00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:44,790 not on. 384 00:25:45,850 --> 00:25:47,750 But the only question is by whom. 385 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:51,690 By Julie Bergman? 386 00:25:56,050 --> 00:25:57,050 Probably. 387 00:25:58,190 --> 00:25:59,370 By my client? 388 00:26:01,070 --> 00:26:03,170 No, not at all. 389 00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:09,290 I'm sure there are people even present here today, that better 390 00:26:09,290 --> 00:26:10,450 fit into your story. 391 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,060 Then my client. 392 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,620 But it was decided to make it non-differing investigate. 393 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:31,060 I'm done. 394 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:41,640 Those lawyers are not enough do? 395 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,400 I think you're exaggerating a bit. Aren't they just doing their job? 396 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:47,940 Here. 397 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:49,120 What do you see? 398 00:26:49,540 --> 00:26:50,459 A pear. 399 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:51,520 Yes, my peer. 400 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:54,880 There is a dark person sitting here at the table and that one does make an apple. 401 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,100 I'm saying it. 402 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,340 I thought he had a point. The half of those tracks were not 403 00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:00,340 investigated. 404 00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:03,920 That he doubts that research so much was to be expected. 405 00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:07,140 But he's like that Julie Bergman If you attack reasonably, I think it's really punishing. 406 00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:09,760 That he leaves all that to Anton to bleed. 407 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,660 I think that's a punishment. That's what it is own daughter? 408 00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:14,580 Yes, really. 409 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:16,000 I think those people have no heart. 410 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,200 Yes, or no choice. 411 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,460 Kati, here. 412 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,960 A chair for you. 413 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:32,100 Hey, aren't we going to drink together later? 414 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,040 Ah, there's a jazz trio playing in mine hotel. 415 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:37,259 Hotel? Yes. 416 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:38,500 Are you going to put them on leave or what? 417 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,920 Yes, but... 418 00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:43,590 With those traffic jams you never know. Dan you have to get your car. A jazz man, eh. 419 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:48,170 I was in doubt between classic or jazz. 420 00:27:48,570 --> 00:27:49,670 Then come and have a listen. 421 00:27:50,370 --> 00:27:51,370 It's going to be worth it. 422 00:27:55,470 --> 00:27:56,470 Julie, 423 00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:05,589 eat something. 424 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:06,810 You're going to feel better. 425 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,500 Why is that lawyer acting like that? 426 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:16,000 He's trying to get your father released. 427 00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:19,220 Dad has nothing to do with it at all make. 428 00:28:20,540 --> 00:28:23,780 He thinks the jury won't go for you believe. 429 00:28:27,620 --> 00:28:28,620 Do you think so too? 430 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,980 I can't get into those people's heads look. 431 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,640 Dad is just okay with that. 432 00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:44,730 Look, I've known his lawyer for a long time. 433 00:28:45,410 --> 00:28:48,790 And believe me, this idea is not yours father, yes. 434 00:28:55,530 --> 00:28:56,910 Everyone just hates me. 435 00:28:57,870 --> 00:28:59,090 Everyone hates me. 436 00:29:01,110 --> 00:29:02,110 By itself. 437 00:29:04,490 --> 00:29:06,850 Hey, that's not true. 438 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,520 where to go when I get out. 439 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:21,800 We'll see about that. 440 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,180 Mrs Delcorte, welcome. 441 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,300 You are involved in the investigation as a bloodstream analyst. 442 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,640 Yes, that's right. 443 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,200 Is it true that the blood trail is that you... 444 00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:47,190 ...found between the living room and the cellar. 445 00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:50,870 Convinced you that we are here too have to do... ...with a crime 446 00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:52,710 committed by two perpetrators? 447 00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:57,010 That the body by two people has been moved, indeed, yes. 448 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:59,330 Yes. Can you explain that a little more? 449 00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:03,750 The lab has cleaned up blood Found... ...between the living room 450 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:06,910 and the cellar. One is clear drip trail visible. 451 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960 And as you can see, there's one first small spot of blood can be seen then 452 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,480 turns into a drip trail at the moment that the body is lifted. 453 00:30:14,820 --> 00:30:16,140 By two people? 454 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Had to carry the body by one person have been dragged, there would be too 455 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,600 rubbing marks are visible. 456 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,860 Yes. And are you sure that's blood? comes from Marianne Koens? 457 00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:28,320 One hundred percent sure, yes. 458 00:30:28,780 --> 00:30:32,560 Do you also know when that blood is there? exactly ended up? 459 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,940 Blood cannot be dated, no. 460 00:30:35,780 --> 00:30:38,680 then it could have ended up there earlier. 461 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,260 A week or a month, maybe even a year earlier. 462 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,520 Yes, that's possible. 463 00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:45,380 And was this a lot of blood? 464 00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:47,060 That struck me. 465 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Yes, I also read in the file, drops are mentioned there. 466 00:30:52,780 --> 00:30:57,000 But if I see Professor Sterks here there I would soon understand it correctly, Mrs 467 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,180 Koens still had several head wounds and Normally that's fine 468 00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:01,400 Lots of blood involved, right? 469 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Yes, in principle, but most of it blood had been cleaned up. And the lady's hair 470 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,860 we also have a large share absorbed. 471 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:13,120 I have a written statement here from the victim's GP. 472 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:17,980 Which states that Marianne Koens regularly suffered from nosebleeds 473 00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:21,780 as a result of using it drug sumatriptan. 474 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,960 That is against cluster headaches. 475 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,300 Could it be that that blood you... found that it comes from 476 00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:29,300 a blood spot? 477 00:31:30,530 --> 00:31:36,470 In this case there is a high density too see between the individual splashes 478 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:38,830 the pattern, indicating a slow one displacement. 479 00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:43,090 With a nosebleed a person would experience a lot faster steps and the drops would 480 00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:44,150 are further apart. 481 00:31:45,310 --> 00:31:50,330 Isn't it true that that blossom star you always use to get that blood on 482 00:31:50,330 --> 00:31:52,050 to detect that it reacts with Javel? 483 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,500 Blue Star indeed connects with hemoglobin. And can therefore be a false one 484 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:02,140 give positive results with products with strongly oxidizing components. Like 485 00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:03,820 Javel. Yes. Also broccoli. 486 00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:05,460 Even broccoli? 487 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,020 Yes. Oh my god. You're not going with that now clean. 488 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,660 Because I read that in the file that living room had recently been cleaned with 489 00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:16,660 Javel. 490 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Could that be? 491 00:32:18,220 --> 00:32:21,100 that's what you do for a little bit has caused confusion... as for 492 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,100 the blood trail. 493 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,020 Even then, that outer ring remains the drop of blood, the skeletal ring... like 494 00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:27,700 we say so, it remains visible. 495 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,380 But yes, the fact is that Javel us has made work difficult. 496 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:36,540 So my theory that that came from blood could be from a nosebleed... is 497 00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:40,940 not plausible, but it doesn't fall to be ruled out completely. It doesn't fall 498 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:42,840 to exclude. Thank you. 499 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,720 Professor Sterks, you just said the head wounds are located above the 500 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,100 hat edge zone, which is suggestive of a blow to the head. 501 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,260 What exactly do you mean by that? 502 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,740 That it is more likely that the head wounds come from a blow to it 503 00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:01,060 head than from falling down the stairs. 504 00:33:02,020 --> 00:33:06,680 More likely. And that is one certainty? Let's say, 100%? 505 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:10,550 No, that's an assumption. But that's an assumption, 506 00:33:10,570 --> 00:33:12,710 master. With 26 years of experience. 507 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:18,810 So in principle those head wounds are possible come from a stair fall. 508 00:33:19,270 --> 00:33:23,750 Yes, listen. The victim had two clear impacts of approx 509 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:27,870 the same size on one side of it head. So that seems reasonable to me 510 00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:28,870 unlikely. 511 00:33:29,530 --> 00:33:34,010 That suffocation you just mentioned had, have traces of it been found? 512 00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:37,670 Because you need quite a bit of force to suffocate someone. 513 00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:40,470 The throat skeleton was still completely intact. 514 00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:42,270 And that's bizarre. 515 00:33:42,650 --> 00:33:47,370 But that's not unusual. If you are someone suffocated with a plastic bag and it 516 00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:49,930 The victim does not struggle, then it is possible that. 517 00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:56,950 They can also have spot hemorrhages like that arise after resuscitation? 518 00:33:58,730 --> 00:33:59,730 That's possible. 519 00:33:59,790 --> 00:34:01,150 That is very exceptional. 520 00:34:01,510 --> 00:34:03,270 But I've seen it before, yes. 521 00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:06,210 That's possible. Let me quote. 522 00:34:06,610 --> 00:34:13,330 Around the victim's mouth there is lip gloss, snot and dried saliva 523 00:34:13,330 --> 00:34:16,090 found. Were those of it victim himself? 524 00:34:16,370 --> 00:34:20,670 No, DNA research has shown that that was by Julie Bergman. 525 00:34:21,850 --> 00:34:22,929 How did that get there? 526 00:34:25,310 --> 00:34:26,330 A kiss? 527 00:34:26,530 --> 00:34:27,530 On the mouth? 528 00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:31,170 That's quite intimate for two people do not match well. 529 00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:32,969 What do you think? 530 00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:36,230 Kiss on the mouth or CPR? 531 00:34:39,969 --> 00:34:45,050 What I find so strange about this story is... why on earth would you someone 532 00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:48,510 try to resuscitate if you are correct bashed your head in for that? 533 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:54,489 Ms. Delcorte, to conclude. 534 00:34:55,110 --> 00:34:58,010 I'm going to ask you yes or no answers. 535 00:34:58,670 --> 00:35:02,540 Could it be that the blood you... found there... among the 536 00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:06,360 living room and the basement comes from a blood mouse. 537 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,480 That's not plausible, but it's possible. Thank you. 538 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,840 Mr. Sterks, can the head wounds come from a stair fall? 539 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:21,200 I already told you, that is unlikely. 540 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:22,900 But it is possible. 541 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,500 Can cause spot bleeding in the eyes arise after resuscitation? 542 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Yes. Can the lip gloss get on the victim come from that resuscitation? 543 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,620 Yes. Yes, thank you. Four yeses. 544 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:41,620 When asked, the research confirms the statement from my clients. 545 00:35:42,220 --> 00:35:47,220 Sorry, master, but I think this is real a bit short-sighted. You frame 546 00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:50,540 a whole study based on this four unlikely elements. Sir 547 00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:52,160 the investigating judge, I have one more question. 548 00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:58,460 Could it be that Julie Bergman... 549 00:35:58,730 --> 00:36:02,830 her stepmother accidentally fell down the stairs pushed her, tried her 550 00:36:02,830 --> 00:36:06,830 resuscitation, but then panics beaten and left without the 551 00:36:06,830 --> 00:36:07,950 notify emergency services. 552 00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:11,950 Because that would fall under the heading guilty negligence. 553 00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:15,070 Thank you. 554 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,720 First he possesses in the dark me as or I did it, goddamn it. And now it is 555 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:33,500 according to that damned jury, only in panic struck. 556 00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:35,060 And that's all possible. 557 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,120 She can try, but the jury is against her don't follow that anyway. 558 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,620 And was the jury diversity believed? Romy, please, come on, say. 559 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,840 I see them there, come. 560 00:36:45,140 --> 00:36:48,400 If they believe her, then the privilege has been taken away from her 561 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,900 punishment. And then she can be released after the trial come. 562 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Goddammit. 563 00:36:57,759 --> 00:37:00,360 Come. See you tomorrow. Come. But that doesn't work happen. 564 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,260 Should I stay here tonight? 565 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,840 What are you going to do? 566 00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:44,460 Putting on pajamas and telling a story read aloud? Please think. I want 567 00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:45,460 just help. 568 00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:54,400 I understand you're having a hard time but...I 569 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,880 I don't know if I can do this one, man. 570 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,980 I can get rid of it in two weeks. 571 00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:02,420 Then you can put it behind you. 572 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Or not, eh. 573 00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:07,510 If you destroy yourself, you have to do. 574 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:09,170 But I can't insist on it again watch. 575 00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:14,070 It'll be fine, boy. 576 00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:19,590 It'll be fine, I say. Moeke. 577 00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:28,130 And call you if I need to come help you with your pajamas. 578 00:38:28,810 --> 00:38:30,130 I sleep naked, young one. 579 00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:45,390 I will bring a model contract. 580 00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:47,490 Yes, bye. 581 00:38:50,410 --> 00:38:51,410 Hey, Anand. 582 00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:52,249 Hey. 583 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:54,710 Did you have a minute for Dries? It doesn't work out so well. 584 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:58,010 What's wrong, boy? I can't be stupid take tables. 585 00:38:59,450 --> 00:39:00,450 Okay, come on. 586 00:39:00,670 --> 00:39:01,670 Magic. 587 00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:08,629 Let's see. 588 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:10,610 Where is he? Ah, in trouble. 589 00:39:11,350 --> 00:39:12,350 Would you like one just once? 590 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:14,750 A. And twice one? 591 00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:17,290 Two and three times one is three. 592 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:19,669 It's okay, right? 593 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:21,370 Yes, only five times six. 594 00:39:22,810 --> 00:39:23,810 Do you know what you're doing? 595 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:28,910 You look at all those tables the more equal time and that seems gigantic 596 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:32,470 mountain writers. You want to get over in one go jumping that mountain, but that's how it goes 597 00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:33,470 not. 598 00:39:33,490 --> 00:39:34,490 Start with the beginning. 599 00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:37,010 And seen one by one, guys. 600 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,260 Don't work on your heart and then you will come on it. 601 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,160 Sorry? 602 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,880 Yeah, this is drills, man. 603 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:11,700 Does it work? 604 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:20,700 An African 605 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:21,700 dance. 606 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,880 That's like sighing, isn't it? So, ha, 607 00:40:24,740 --> 00:40:25,760 ha, ha. 608 00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:27,660 Flusan, eh. 609 00:40:28,540 --> 00:40:29,640 And pottery. 610 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,920 The African is never not home, right? 611 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,220 Does your husband not mind? 612 00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:37,360 He waves from his cloud every now and then. 613 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,320 Sorry. 614 00:40:40,030 --> 00:40:43,710 I didn't know that. That's really not a big deal. Life goes on. 615 00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:47,410 Do you have any hobbies, Catherine? 616 00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:51,210 I'm taking the tango class. 617 00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:53,210 Together with my daughter. 618 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:56,630 But it is now in place for a year Frankfurt. 619 00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:58,750 With your daughter? Yes. 620 00:40:59,210 --> 00:41:00,570 Is your husband not a dancer? 621 00:41:01,970 --> 00:41:05,590 He has been dancing on one for a few months now other. 622 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:06,870 Oh dear. 623 00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:10,230 Also divorced. 624 00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:18,710 Want some more drinks? 625 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:20,110 Jacob? 626 00:42:07,569 --> 00:42:08,569 Hey. William. 627 00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:10,650 Mark. Hey. Hello. 628 00:42:11,090 --> 00:42:12,090 Hey. 629 00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:16,410 Wow. The copper marker, eh? Yes. Yes. 630 00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:18,370 It's from father, isn't it? Yes. 631 00:42:26,170 --> 00:42:28,030 Hey, what's with those photos? 632 00:42:29,710 --> 00:42:31,650 What does Kobber's school say? 633 00:42:33,310 --> 00:42:34,490 Kobber has nothing to do with that. 634 00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:36,290 He would never do such a thing. 635 00:42:42,970 --> 00:42:44,170 How are you, Noratje? 636 00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:46,990 Time is children. 637 00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:50,290 Come on, heads! 638 00:42:59,470 --> 00:43:01,730 You know, in the basement... Has here someone call a taxi? 639 00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:03,870 Yes, me. 640 00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:08,000 That's pretty quick, isn't it? That's not it intention? But yes. 641 00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:17,020 Drink plenty of water when you get home comes. 642 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,660 And don't drink too much water, okay? 643 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,480 Jacob. 644 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,420 See you tomorrow, eh. 645 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,480 Shall we have another melo? What are you drinking? yet? 646 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,420 I thought I was going home. 647 00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:46,240 A pint. 648 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:49,280 That's the same. That was a long time ago. 649 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,380 I 650 00:43:53,380 --> 00:44:00,160 haven't got here yet 651 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,660 heard so much talk tonight. 652 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,800 I don't have much to say either. 653 00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:09,080 Don't experience much either. 654 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,040 It's the second time I've been in one hotel bowl. 655 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,860 What was your first time? 656 00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:21,480 My honeymoon in Creta. 657 00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:24,320 Just all in. 658 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,420 No, all English. 659 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,960 Palmboma yes. 660 00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:34,550 Trap chambers, you know. 661 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:38,430 A bit of a harbinger for your wedding, actually. 662 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:44,790 I didn't think my marriage was that bad. 663 00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:48,310 But apparently my husband does, right? 664 00:44:58,050 --> 00:44:59,050 Sorry. 665 00:44:59,710 --> 00:45:01,390 No, I didn't want... 666 00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:16,510 I'd like to know what you do thinks. 667 00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:55,850 Just as beautiful as the all-inclusive one in Creta. 668 00:46:02,670 --> 00:46:08,270 I don't know if that's such a good idea. 669 00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:10,630 We don't know each other yet. 670 00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:07,890 Yes, come. 671 00:47:18,970 --> 00:47:20,530 Don't think too much. 672 00:47:20,770 --> 00:47:22,290 You're going to like it. 673 00:47:25,330 --> 00:47:26,530 Yes, come. 674 00:47:28,190 --> 00:47:29,870 Don't. 675 00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:31,250 Don't. 676 00:47:31,330 --> 00:47:32,750 Please. Yes, come. 677 00:48:01,770 --> 00:48:02,810 LAUGHTER. 678 00:49:05,759 --> 00:49:06,759 Come on, come on! 679 00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:37,140 I'm making the delay against you. 680 00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:14,810 Yes, indexed or drugged. That We'll see later when we get the blood 681 00:52:14,810 --> 00:52:15,810 get rid of it. 682 00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:18,890 I'm going to be busy for a while. 683 00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:24,830 Who let you in here? 684 00:52:27,050 --> 00:52:28,190 You're not supposed to be here. 685 00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:33,170 Has anyone here seen you yet? 686 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:36,130 Sir, may I ask that you return to go outside, please? 687 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:15,720 I've seen it.